you all know I’m not really interested in Legacy in anywhere near the depth that I’m interested in ‘82–

and YET, sometimes, these ideas keep coming to me

An idea in four weird acts:

1.

What if the Sea of Simulation was the same thing to Jordan that Clu was to Flynn.

what if she created it/ copied herself into it

and some version of her consciousness is in it, always working

and its purpose is to help make things

what if all the parts of the Grid that were made with her architectural skills just… appeared by emerging fully formed from the Sea

2.

what if this sentient Sea also, eventually, learned how to make living programs.

And those were the ISOs

like. I’ve seen theories about how the ISOs may have been like Flynn’s children in a sense, because their creation may have somehow… spawned from his human presence on the Grid, or something

but… if the method of their creation also involved Jordan, this deepens that idea even further

(parallel to the River Jordan becomes almost painful…. body of water that has been the source and setting of endless history and life and culture but also endless war and violence. really that is… TOO much for me to even wanna get into. …moving on.)

3.

what if, as the creator of the ISOs, the Sea kept backups of her creations? What if the ISOs can be restored from her?

(If, as implied in the Betrayal comic, Clu poisoned the sea to prevent more ISOs emerging, then this may have harmed Jordan’s program and/or the backups it was keeping.)

(But, maybe she has some form of protection. Maybe they’re still in there and recoverable, if anyone’s looking around after Legacy for ways to rebuild the Grid. We can only speculate!)

4.

As much as “reset buttons” that undo canonical harm are often seen as a lazy way out…

well, I often find them fascinating– just for the (usually unexplored) ethical implications.

If everything and everyone that Clu destroyed can be brought back… what does this do to his villainhood?

And for this thought experiment, my brain is still stuck partway in the world of Riemann’s fic The Five Stages of Rectification… where the premise is that both Clu and Flynn ended up still being alive after reintegration, just with their identities and worldviews very much shattered and needing to figure a whole lot of stuff out.

But whether or not Clu or Flynn still exist and have to live with this new reality– and whether or not they are feeling remorse and seeking redemption–

the questions still remain deeply troubling, in regard to the atrocities that Clu committed, and the mistakes Flynn made that led to that happening.

if the Sea has backups… does it lessen the harm of what they did?

• It may bring back everything they caused to be destroyed.
• It doesn’t change the intentions behind their actions. Doesn’t change that many victims were killed with deliberate cruelty, and with the intention that they stay dead. (Ethical thought experiment: How much do intentions matter in comparison to outcome? Is this different depending on whether the outcome was better or worse than the intentions?)
• It doesn’t erase the suffering that happened during that destruction. The pain of those who were hurt and killed. The trauma of those who survived them. (Ethical thought experiment: If Clu could erase everyone’s memory of the suffering he caused, thus removing the only thing still hurting anyone– would it make things better, or worse?)
• Further ethical thought experiment: How do these questions compare to arguments for why it is wrong to kill people in the real world, even if you believe that there is an afterlife where they will go and be happy forever?

just… a whole complicated MESS of ideas bursting out of this… which I am not even particularly interested in writing fic about, because deep philosophical moral questions are things I want in my fic as a background motif at MOST, and… this would definitely consume the entire theme of any story it got into.

Ah, Disney.

You can give every protagonist a dead mom who’s such a non-character that it’s easy to headcanon she never really existed.

BUT you cannot stop the fans from making something more out of what you’ve neglected.

Always.