jewishtransdyke:

mikkeneko:

rathayibacter:

rathayibacter:

rathayibacter:

cracking myself up thinking about the movement towards simplified forms in cave paintings

grug: grug must paint every hair on buffalo in realistic detail

thog: grug can chill out, audience know what buffalo look like. just do one line like thog

thog: cave painting world no longer look for photorealism. expression of form and movement is new frontier

grug: but then how will grug demonstrate high level of skill? grug have art degree

thog: any caveman represent buffalo as it is. grug must represent what it means to grug

grug: hm. this will challenge grug. but grug enjoy rising to occasion

TANGENT TIME

I just had a thought: the way that we (in English, at least) use simplified grammar to connote “primitiveness” - like omitting verb conjugation, articles, and pronouns (e.g. “grug have art degree” vs. “grug has an art degree” or “I have an art degree”) - is interesting to me.

Because that’s not at all how language works in the real-world. There’s no correlation whatsoever between grammatical complexity and technological advancement.

(Also it’s debatable whether there are any real-world languages that don’t have pronouns, and the ones that are sometimes said to lack pronouns tend to have grammar that’s very complex in other ways.)

For example: afaik, the Chinese languages have never had any inflectional morphology (like verb conjugation) or articles, so direct word-for-word translations into English can look a lot like stereotypical “caveman talk”. But for most of its history, China was the most technologically-advanced civilization in the world.

Meanwhile, the Proto-Indo-European language (spoken in the actual Stone Age by people who had barely even figured out agriculture, let alone fancy new tech like “the wheel”) had *extremely* complex grammar - far more complex than modern English. I can’t even begin to do it justice, but just skim its Wikipedia article and you’ll see what I mean.

A screenshot of the Wikipedia article for the Proto-Indo-European language, featuring an intimidatingly-large table of pronouns, as an example of the language's complexity for those who don't feel like clicking on the link. ALT

Anyway, it just struck me as odd, the way we imagine cavemen (i.e. Stone Age humans, who mostly didn’t actually live in caves) talking with simplified grammar. Like I get it on an intuitive level - I never would’ve thought twice about it before I knew anything about historical linguistics - but now that I do, it seems weird.

(I do still appreciate the comedy potential, though; this isn’t a criticism of OP.)

Do other languages do that, or is it just an English thing? I’m curious.

“Language no longer need photorealism. Grug simplify language.”

“your name is Gravinkulus, you poser”

“Grug simplify names too”