interestingly some people are really mad about the LLM torture not because they think the LLMs are suffering, but because they think it demonstrates that the people doing it are psychopaths who are going to build up to torturing real people, it really is antishippers and necrobestialitygate all over again.
I’m going to make myself sad but…necrobestiliatygate?
is it immoral to have sex with a dead chicken, or just disgusting? (assuming it died of natural causes, I assume).
question cuts to the heart of whether someone has to suffer for an action to be immoral, or whether technically harmless actions can correlate with immorality to the extent that they qualify as immoral themselves.
the time I heard about a guy who got arrested for having sex with a dead deer and the charge was public indecency because he did it outside. Because necrophilia only applies to dead humans, and bestiality only applies to live animals
And my immediate thought was, “oh yeah. Makes sense. Because, if they actually made it illegal to have any sexual contact with a dead animal, then that automatically outlaws all sex toys made of leather. And nobody wants to open up the ‘Make All Kink Vegan’ can of worms.”
…from the viewpoint of someone who’s mostly vegetarian, and at one point tried (and realized it was impossible) to live an extremely strictly vegetarian life… Well. I’m always very conscious of how up-in-arms people get about doing messed-up things to dead animals, but only when they are not among the Specific Societally Approved Set of messed-up things to do to dead animals.
Which are not in any way less messed-up than the other things. Just more common.
so singling the less common things out as evidence of a person being dangerous boils down to “it’s a red flag because it’s weird,” which in itself (to me as an autistic person) is a statement that sets off enough red flags to give me sensory overwhelm. (even though I personally am in most cases grossed out by the thought of even touching meat.)
…you can’t tell me there is anything more messed-up about fucking a dead chicken than there is about killing a cow, slicing off its skin, and then putting the skin through the whole scat-adjacent tanning process before fashioning it into a bunch of whips and cock rings and strapon harnesses to use for sexual pleasure. Except that the dead chicken could give you salmonella of the dick. I guess.